WMMath Podcast – Leslie Smith Plus Your Questions

Busy few weeks in the women’s divisions.

We get an interview with Leslie Smith who is facing Arlene Blenclowe at Bellator next week. We talk about the new additions to the Bellator featherweight division, her training partners, and her continued learning about her fight for labor equality.

Invicta weigh-ins shake up the card, plus I answer questions about the featherweight division and Invicta’s Phoenix Series tournaments.


Sumie Sakai: Transcending the Combat Arts

Before Cain. Before Ronda. Before Shayna. Before Brock. There was Sumie Sakai.

It was not unheard of early on in the history of the women’s divisions that wrestling and MMA would crossover.

It was friend and fellow training partner Megumi Yabushita who turned her on pro wrestling. Initially, Sakai had no interest but soon fell in love with the sport. Continue reading Sumie Sakai: Transcending the Combat Arts

WMMAth Podcast – Serena DeJesus

Invicta is ready to wrap up its year next week and we went to Syndicate MMA to catch up with Serena DeJesus as she prepares for her promotional debut. We talked about finally being signed, getting ready for a bigger stage, and the support she is giving to the Autism community.

We also dig into some news with the UFC, Bellator, ONE, and DEEP-JEWELS.

WMMath Podcast: Amateur Standout Natalya Speece Plus PFL and Tuff-n-uff Recap

After an eventful weekend in Vegas, the PFL finals are set and Tuff-n-uff showcased some new stars. We will go over what happen when we were live for the events and who will be a part of the 2020 PFL tournament.

An all female amateur card is set for Sunday in San Diego and we get an opportunity to talk to Jackson Winkeljohn product Natalya Speece about her background and her sacrifices to pursue her career.

Plus a quick UFC and ONE recap.

WMMA Podcast:Chelsea Rae Plus InvictaFC 38 Card Released; PFL and Tuff-n-uff coverage and UFC News

In what will be a busy week between PFL, Tuff-n-uff, UFC, One Championship, Rizin, and Combates; we give you the fights to watch. We will be live at the PFL playoffs and Tuff-n-uff and our guest Chelsea Rae helps us break them down as she prepares for her own fight at Tuff-n-uff Saturday. She will also be coaching some of the Wimp 2 Warrior participants in their first MMA bouts.

Invicta was this past weekend and we go through the results and give you the line-up for the next card.

Plus a lot of news.

Bellator and LFA Vet Katy Collins Has Passed Away

It is a sad week as a true athlete has passed on.

After battling to recover from a brain aneurysm suffered this past Friday, Katy Collins passed away Wednesday. She was only 32 years old.

“The fight is over. You never stopped fighting and we never gave up on you. Just wasn’t in the cards,” her manager and long time friend JT Tilly posted on Facebook.

“I’ve always been so proud of you Kate. We did it. I was honored to be able to live your dream with you. I wouldn’t trade it for anything. I will miss you more than the world will ever know.”

Continue reading Bellator and LFA Vet Katy Collins Has Passed Away

WMMath Podcast – Shino VanHoose and Linda Mihalec

This week on the WMMath podcast talk InvictaFC 37 with two atomweights working their way up the ranks.

Linda “F109” Mihalec is a Kentucky based fighter with several teammates who are Invicta vets. We talk to Mihalec about her preps and how she got into fighting.

Shino VanHoose is coming off a year layoff and is looking forward to returning to action. Recently moved to las Vegas, we talk to VanHoose in studio about her fruitful career, and her thoughts on the future of the 105 division. Continue reading WMMath Podcast – Shino VanHoose and Linda Mihalec

WMMath Podcast – Justine Kish in Studio and Jessica Eye

We are back in the podcasting game.

The WMMath podcast will be a semi-weekly source for fighting news out of the women’s divisions, discussion on current topics, fan questions, and of course great guests.

We had two great guests for the launch, which was recorded in the High Mountain Studios in Henderson, Nevada.

Making headlines as of late, Justin Kish was in studio to talk about her challenge to Paige VanZandt, training at the UFC’s Performance Institute, and improvements to her game. Continue reading WMMath Podcast – Justine Kish in Studio and Jessica Eye

InvictaFC Phoenix Series 2 Primer

(Photo courtesy Dave Mandel, Invicta FC)

The flyweights are featured this time as InvictaFC hosts their second Phoenix Series Friday night. Set with a field of international talent, the winner has a shot of facing the winner of the Vanessa Porto and Karina Rodriguez for the flyweight title.

A group of young guns are also in line in reserve and non-tournament bouts.

For those new to the series, the tournament consists of one 5 minute round for the quarter and semi-finals, with the finals a full three round fight. Fastest finish time in the quarterfinals receives opponent choice for the semi-finals, plus any finish gets a bonus.

Weigh-ins and draws were held Thursday in Kansas City. All tournament participants made weight. Only Chantel Coates missed the mark on the whole card, and will forfeit 25% of her purse plus is now ineligible to be a injury replacement.

The card starts at 7 p.m. central time and will stream on UFC Fight Pass.

Here are the weigh-in results and bout draws for the tournament, plus some background about the participants. Continue reading InvictaFC Phoenix Series 2 Primer

Invicta Strawweight Title Match Announced; Gonzalez vs Walker Added to October Card

InvictaFC President Shannon Knapp is starting the stack the last two cards of the year, and one will crown a new strawweight champion.

Knapp announced on the “Beatdown After the Bell” podcast that Bellator vet and former flyweight title challenger Enily Ducote will face Rizin star Kanato Murata for the vacant 115 title. The belt was held by Phoenix Rizin 1 winner Brianna Van Buren before she signed to the UFC shortly after winning it. Continue reading Invicta Strawweight Title Match Announced; Gonzalez vs Walker Added to October Card

After an hiatus we are back!

It has been a few months since we had any articles up or the results updated.

The simple reason is I have moved – to Vegas! The past few months involved me prepping so the site was lower on the priorities. Now that I am here and settled, we are back up and running and ready to expand.

The podcast will start in the coming week, with our first live guest already lined up. Being in fighter central, we will be able to have guests on a weekly basis to keep you.

Starting Friday, we will start having live fight coverage from Tuff-n-uff MMA. The organization has seen the best amateur talent go though its doors and we look forward to see more of the rising stars shine under their lights.

We will continue to keep up fight results and give you information about upcoming events and new fighters making the scene from around the world.

Coverage starts Thursday with your primer for the Phoenix Series 2.

Thanks for your continued support.

How Do You Define GOAT?

This past weekend, we saw Amanda Nunes successfully defend her title with a head kick finish over Holly Holm. Her hit list includes everyone who was champion at bantamweight and featherweight in the UFC.

The term “Greatest Female Fighter of All Time” was suddenly awarded by many fans and the media, but I was of the small group not giving her the moniker.

I was immediately challenged:

I currently give Megumi Fujii that title, due to her 22 fight win streak to begin her career and never being finished in her three losses. Nunes lost three times in her career, two times being finished.

This sparked debate about the criteria we use to consider GOAT status, with many giving their opinions on the subject.

Let’s breakdown the list and see arguments from both sides.

Unbeaten Streaks

This is my top criteria for GOAT, which seems to be a lesser factor for most. Fujii, like her male counterpart Fedor, went on a massive undefeated streak. Fujii went to win 22 straight fights with 20 finishes before her first ever loss, a streak that may never be broken by a female fighter.

Fighting in their Prime

Another argument is Nunes is currently fighting “in her prime”. Her losses were when she was still developing.

Nunes came into the sport just after the era began when amateur divisions started to come into the picture. Once you turn pro, losses count. Many fighters will develop enough in the amateurs to work out their holes in their game. This could prove to be an argument in the future if a fighter goes on a huge win streak and has amateur losses.

Should be noted amateur fights were also rare in Fujii’s time.

There is also the consideration of more fights in less time. With the popularity of the female divisions now, the number of fights per year has dramatically increased. So is recovery a factor? Does having more fights in a shorter amount of time play a factor?

Quality of Competition

When Fujii went on her legendary run, the women’s divisions were still in their infancy. Many had only very few fights under their belt before meeting Fujii.

Nunes’s supporters point out that her wins were over more tougher and quality opponents, which is a valid point.

That begs a question. In the current era, the sport and training methods have evolved. From weight cutting to cross training, MMA athletes have more resources at their disposal. Back in the day, “MMA gyms” were few and far between, especially for female fighters. What is tougher – training in less than great circumstances or facing an opponent who has the same advanced resources as yourself?

Best example is the home run record in baseball. In the day of Hank Aaron, the idea or training, even in the off season, was nonsensical. In the 90’s, men like Barry Bonds soon took to training methods in the off season to improve his hitting. Things from reaction training to weight training. (The idea of performance enhancers – we will get to later).

Does it make Hank Aaron less great? For that matter does it make Michael Jordon less great compared to Lebron James, or Wilt Chamberlain before him?

There is a great Ted Talk on this idea and you can watch it below.

Weight Class

It should also be note Fujii was in the era of a limited pool of fighters. She has faced fighters as heavy as 135 pounds, and could have easily made 105 if the division was developed at the time. Nunes has proven to be dominate in two weight classes – 145 and 135.

It has been proven over the past few years 115 and 125 are deeper and more natural weight classes for women. So does that mean the deeper the pool, the more argument you could have for being a GOAT?

Same argument can be stated about the men’s divisions as 155 and 170, which has a deeper talent pool than their heavyweight or light heavyweight counterparts.

Nattie GOATs

This does not pertain to the initial argument, as Nunes and Fujii have never tested positive for prohibited substances.

That being said….

In Fujii’s time, it was the wild, wild west when it came to performance enhancers. There was little to no testing like there currently is. Is it possible some of her opponents had them? We will never really know.

This argument, however, more pertains to the main event on this past weekend’s card: Jon Jones. Having been caught with performance enhancers in the past, does he deserve to be called GOAT? Daniel Cormier also has an argument since all of his fights with Jones were basically no contests due to testing positive for prohibited substances. Even then we go back to the idea that heavyweight and light heavyweight are a smaller pool of talent.

Popularity vs Accomplishments

The also needs to factor in. If you ask most UFC fans who Megumi Fujii is, they have no clue. One argument lobbed to me was that Fujii didn’t have a significant win like Nunes. You have to again remember that in Fujii’s day, the women’s divisions weren’t as popular.

What do you define as significant? Is the amount of people watching an important fight or the athlete accomplishing something that the sport has not seen?

I will also point out the UFC argument. Can there be GOATS outside of their promotion? For years Fedor was considered GOAT, having never stepped in the octagon.

Should We Decide as a Career as a Whole in Retirement?

A point someone brought up was “should we even give someone that moniker before they retire”? It is an interesting question.

Many had considered Ronda Rousey the greatest female fighter of all time until she got knocked out by Holly Holm. Cris Cyborg was the greatest until she got knocked out by Nunes. If someone was to knock out or submit Nunes, does that make that woman “Female GOAT”? Should we wait until their resume is truly complete to make that determination? All fighters lose in MMA at some point, but quickly changing the title of “GOAT” goes away so often, maybe we need to consider it.

The thing is this will always be debated. As fans, we love to. The question of who is “The Greatest of All Time” will never really be settled. Current fans will always consider who they seen in their time, while historians like myself will always seek back to accomplishments those athletes in a time when the sport was in its infancy.

There never will be a definitive answer.

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